[00:00:00] Out of Cycle. I'll chalk it up to simply material for another 101, I suppose. CryptoTalk.fm, my name is Leister, I'm your host. It's a weekend episode, Out of Cycle. Quick, because I watched chaos and nonsense, I figured I had to lend voice because it seems like it's interesting, right? You're dealing with at least one person who has been an executive in an organization, that's on record.

[00:00:26] You're dealing with another person that's worked at another organization, was exposed, I'm going to talk about that tail end. For those that don't follow this crap, that's why I'm doing these things because they don't follow this crap. I think it's good for you to know what's going on because it helps you. But a lot of misinformation was given and it occurred to me, I don't know if it's intentional, but it occurred to me, these sides are just lying on both.

[00:00:56] You know, they're just lying on both. So again, as I said on my last one at CryptoTalk.fm, you are choosing between liars. That's what you're doing. Okay? So what happened is there's a, what's called Welsh, you know, like the language Welsh Dag. Welsh Dag has a site, I think it's Welshdag.trade if I recall. Welshdag has a site and they're part of this so-called community side for this fiasco that's going on with BlockDAG.

[00:01:24] Welsh Dag now, from what I can tell, has kind of taken a front seat in mining pool and communication and hosting and all this on behalf of the so-called community. This is what I see. I don't know if it's true, but this is what I see. And they did an AMA quote, AMA. The AMA it's out on their YouTube, but you can go to their site to get there.

[00:01:51] But the AMA, it's obviously the dumb and dumber again. Now they, they were explaining and they were answering questions. So at least credit the fact that they're answering questions. Unfortunately, the answers they gave are crypto bubble. They don't speak to regular folks at all. And in some cases they were lies. That's what I'm going to share. Okay. And you can verify what I'm saying, because if you go to my first episode that I talked

[00:02:18] about, about this whole quote community, everything that I said is the truth and you can verify it's the truth. Some people came back and they commented on that upload and said, yeah, I went there and I saw there's two different amounts, obviously, because there's two different ledgers. Obviously the only way you could have different amounts is if they're different ledgers. There's a different transactions. The one that has less transactions has less amounts.

[00:02:46] Obviously that means they left transactions behind. Obviously like everything I said is the truth. Some don't want to hear it, but it's the truth. At least here on this AMA, they acknowledged a couple of things they acknowledged, but they misrepresented their acknowledgement, but they acknowledged anything that I said, anything that you gave and were allotted coins. And I'm going to stress the word coins. I'll get to that in a minute.

[00:03:14] And you're allotted coins as part of something you invested. You will not get any of those transactions on this other side, unless you would claim them to your wallet. Now, of course you couldn't claim the vast majority of them. We understand. And this is all of us. We understand that at some point they started this bullshit fake billions of coins for a hundred dollars garbage. None of those existed. They're fake. Okay. Those don't exist. They never existed.

[00:03:43] They're all, they've always been fake. Okay. So there, at least with that subset of quote coins there, we are all in consensus. No pun intended. The idea that when they started rolling that out, those were always fake each and every one, when they would say after sales and, and all these aggressive things, you put a hundred dollars in there and you get billions and billions. And people are like, there's only 150 billion.

[00:04:13] How are you doing that? The, the, the, the, the, the, the, those excessive numbers that you did not get in the wallet. And then they would do the compression stuff. All of those fake. Those were truly fake. Okay. Okay. Now the thing is we do all agree that those were all fake. They never existed. What these numb nuts are misrepresenting because they don't know how to explain this shit.

[00:04:41] Nobody has ever disagreed. That knows the tech. Nobody has ever disagreed that the sales side of things, the things you, the whole, all that garbage were always phony. There were never that many coins, right? Nobody's ever disagreed that. But you two are conflating different things and it's confusing people, thus forcing people like myself at critical talk.fm to break it down because for whatever the fuck reason,

[00:05:11] neither of you know how to talk straight. I say talk straight as in transparently about what's really going on. I said, I stressed the word coins. These two kept saying the word fucking tokens. They kept saying token, token, token, token, tokens. What the fuck is the matter with you? By your own admissions, it's a layer one. So why are you referring to them as tokens?

[00:05:36] If it's a layer one, they must be coins, which is why I said, is there something Jeremy knows that he's not being transparent about? And my prison wallet seems to think that they are, I'm talking yours, just tokens on the blockchain. Now I happen to know after I ran some tweaks on it, I happen to know they can be qualified as coins.

[00:06:00] My question is why you keep referring to them as token when on the various non AMAs with the annoying voice lady channel, you were referring to them as coins pretty consistently. At no point. Did you refer to them as coins when you're on that fucking channel? But then when you get on this shit, you're calling them tokens. I don't think there was a single point. You call them coins. I'm asking the question. I'm calling you out gauntlet down. Is there something that you know that you've not shared with people?

[00:06:30] That's not an accusation. I'm asking the fucking question. Why you keep calling them tokens all of a sudden when that was never a problem for you defected. Number two, Jeremy keeps and they were like chuckling to themselves and actually like this is a big fucking joke. They kept referring to the BDAG scan side as I refer to it as a quote database newsflash. You dumb fuckers. Every blockchain is a database. Why?

[00:07:00] The simple definition of a database is something that stores data and makes it available. Every goddamn blockchain in existence is a database at heart. What Jeremy's trying to say because he doesn't understand how to explain it properly. Secondly, he's trying to say that it is an isolated instance of the chain.

[00:07:25] By their own admission, they said that you forked to his own isolated, which is what I said. I said there's definitely been a branch off. There's still only one chain because there's only one chain ID. So for all intents and purposes, there's still one chain, but there are two ledgers. Somebody in a coin market cap clearly ran what I said through a eye. Well, we don't have any evidence that there's two ledgers. Fuck.

[00:07:55] When you have different transactions, when you end up with two different balances, you can only do so by the way of two ledgers. They clearly ran my response back to a I said, yes, that actually doesn't make sense. There's different transactions that there must therefore be too. This is common sense. Stop relying on fucking AI to answer common sense. Use your damn brains. It's so frustrating seeing so many people go to AI to get their answers instead of thinking for your damn selves.

[00:08:25] You not thinking for yourselves is what got you in this mess. You listening to pathological liars is what got you in this mess. When it's so damn simple, it's so damn simple. Many of you, not all many of you watched a guy talking on the moon, kicking his leg out and thought that's the time to fomo into this crap. That's what got you trapped your step one. Admit what the fuck you did wrong. Don't blame it on.

[00:08:55] Don't blame it on these dumb and numbers. Start with yourself. You bought in because of a guy standing on the moon because that's all they had. Some of you later after Turner gets fired. You bought in because of the billions of coins for $100. You did that. He put the carrot out there. You are the one choosing to pick it the fuck up. You need to own that because that's on you.

[00:09:23] Now that we're after the fact, instead of continuing to rely on others, how about you think for yourselves about the common sense in front of your face? I gave you the tool. I gave you the technique. Go to a check your wallet balance. Go to be check your wallet balance. It's common sense people. When you see there's a discrepancy in the balances, what must that mean? That must mean there are two ledgers. Why?

[00:09:51] Because if there's a discrepancy, it means there's transactions missing. All I'm saying, which I told you is those can only be your pre-sale type stuff. And I'm not talking post January. I'm talking before with the guy kicking on the moon, the stuff you've not claimed. It's common sense because there's no dashboard on the other side. In the AMA, they openly admitted they're not doing a dashboard. They're not doing any of those. They're leaving them behind. That makes it a rug pull.

[00:10:21] If you buy into their snake oil, that's all I said. I also said, it's fine if you want to do that, but you're accepting you're starting over from scratch because that's what you're doing. Because if you didn't claim anything, you're essentially starting over from scratch. You have nothing. And you have no gas because they didn't give you any gas to do anything any fucking way. If you had a mistake in there, you may have a balance in the stake, but you can't claim the shit without gas.

[00:10:50] So if you didn't claim, you have no gas. You can't buy it because the exchanges are currently locked down, which makes it right now essentially a rug pull what they did. If you buy into their side, if you go with those RPCs, you will be starting over from scratch, which is what I said. They acknowledge that's essentially the truth. They wanted all they wanted was just to be decentralized. We just want to do our own shit. That's fine, but that's all you would have.

[00:11:19] All you would have is a feel good moment that you're off over here and I got my thing. Cool. I never said don't. I said that's all you would have and you have to live with it because you're so pissed off about the side of things. You got to do something just except you're starting over. Okay, then you really got to think it through and this is something I didn't say before and I'm going to say it now because of what they did on the AMA, which I did record, but I think you need to make your own decision.

[00:11:50] Consider who was the CEO not two, three months ago. If we're really serious about this whole Rico, if we're really serious about suing a motherfucker, we need to be very conscious about people. Not sides because you got to be mindful.

[00:12:09] Is it possible that that person is trying to absolve guilt by showing he's doing something to get you to descend as a distraction, a.k.a. a Chewbacca to get you to focus that direction and leave him in the wind so that he's not called up on the lamb in front of law enforcement. Despite the fact he was right in front of it the whole damn time for multiple months. He was right there lying to you and I recorded those.

[00:12:38] This is what you need to understand that you need to reconcile with yourself listener. You need to ask yourself if you're really considering going the community side and I never said don't I'm saying if you're considering doing it. If you're also one of those formally known as the consensus who is talking about lawsuits. Who is it that you're suing if you're going to then say I'm just going to go after kids. I can't help you. Because you don't get how this works.

[00:13:06] You don't get how the game works, which is why you keep getting ripped off. You don't get it, which is cool. It goes back to me saying army versus family. Most armies are led by competent people, but there are the slim few armies that are led by dumb asses. And when you have armies led by dumb asses, they tend to be duped easy. So go ahead.

[00:13:33] If you are so fixated that this over here is your future. Great. As long as you accept all your pre-sale money is gone. Set that in your mind. Don't trust me. Verify. Go listen to the AMA and hear them tell you that. We don't know. We don't know what's going on with your money. We don't have anything to do with it. So you go listen to them.

[00:14:01] Tell you your money you gave to pre-sale, which by the way, you did when they were employed there. All that's gone. Listen to them. Tell you that don't trust me. Listen to them. Tell you all your fucking money's gone, which was gathered under their command. They were there. They were in front of it. They were involved in it. He held the wallets. It doesn't matter.

[00:14:30] Just like with shopping. Mr. Jeremy Harkness. You were there. And I said in my coverage, the fact that you're there is not a good look. Especially given what happened with that leader. And then you sign up with another leader doing allegedly the same thing. At some point where there's smoke, there's fire. That's not an accusation to you.

[00:14:53] That's telling you, you need to understand that when you go from one company where that leader has whatever's going on and you come to this one and you're doing it again. It doesn't look good for you, sir. You have your ardent supporters because all they care about is the decentralized freedom. Great. Great. I celebrate you living in that walled garden, but I will not stop telling people listening to me here. Kurt to talk to them. You need to really think about who it is you're bad at.

[00:15:23] Are you mad at the guy who did marketing openly told you to your face? Guys, if it wasn't for marketing, you wouldn't be here. And that's true. If it wasn't for his damn marketing, you wouldn't have bought in. You wouldn't be here now. You wouldn't be in this fucking problem. All that he's telling you the truth. He's telling you to straight up. His marketing has always been the problem. If he forked it off to a walled garden, he forked it off, but it's still a usable something.

[00:15:51] You just can't do shit with it outside of buys and sells. But consider what that means. These side over here, they're going to have to get on some exchanges in order to be any sort of viable. They're going to have to be free trade. They could do a bridge right now. They could do a bridge to you to swap. They could get on the decentralized side and do free trades right now. Why don't you do it? Why don't you to do free trades? They said on the AMA, the exchanges will just take money.

[00:16:20] And whoever's got the money, that's where they're going to go. If that's true, and I don't say that it's not, but if that's true, what does that tell you? That tells you they've already lost because they told you they're essentially broke. They don't have the money even just to keep the damn thing stable. As I proved the RPCs were not consistent. They're not keeping up. The staking has tons of fails. It's a buggy shit show. Even now, weeks later, they don't have the money to stably run it. They're asking for the community to keep it going.

[00:16:50] Fine. But by their admission, they're saying with the exchanges, it's a money game. So if you don't have money and he's got money to burn, what does that mean? Simple. As I close, you've got a choice again. I repeat my same choice. You got a choice to make. Do you follow these idiots over here who fork the shit off instead of doing the right thing,

[00:17:17] which is create a brand new chain with a brand new name and rebrand like they should have fucking done. Instead of trying to do this shit that confuses the community. Do you follow them understanding that they at one point worked for an answer to the organization that some of you are claiming Rico about? Do you follow them blindly and try to let them off the hook? Do you do that knowing according to them exchanges is highly unlikely because it's a money game. That's what they said.

[00:17:45] Do you follow that or do you follow this guy over here who clearly has his own thing going on because it's a different ledger who clearly has one RPC going on? It is what it is. We don't know what the future is. We don't know what anything is right now. We don't know about the Cardano. We don't know any of that. We know nothing of any of this stuff. The only thing we do know is what they on the community side just told you.

[00:18:10] It's a money game with the exchanges is probably factually accurate, so it's more likely they're going to route that way. If they route that way and they choose not to route this other way over here. All they can do is the decentralized side. That's the decentralization they're asking for. Is that good enough for you? Fine. I had people say, what do I do? I can't. I can't guide you. I can recommend. I can recommend the easiest thing to do, which is nothing. Literally nothing.

[00:18:40] Don't interact with the tools. Don't interact with any. Don't damn sure. Don't buy from sites, but don't interact with any tools. Don't interact with these community shits tools. Don't interact with the beat. Don't interact with the tools. Just sit. If you listened to your uncle telling you to get from the exchange and buy and sit on it, which I said months ago. And people who did, they're sitting on a bag on both sides. Okay? If you're one of those that was buying from the site, there's nothing I can do for you either.

[00:19:09] Because again, those stupid numbers. No, those never existed. They never existed. The buyback alleged buyback. That's an open question too. Do they happen? Do they not happen? There's a lot that didn't happen. So consider if the buyback turns into something that does not restore full faith, but it does tell you one thing. It tells you there's money available on that side. That's what it would tell you. That's all it would tell you. There's money available.

[00:19:38] There's buyback. And some people that did do the buyback. I mean, they're going to make a lot of money. And if that's all you care about is the making of the money, I mean, you got to think about what that means. You also have to think about, as I said, if what they're saying on this AMA is true, which is basically reiterating what I said, but they do not explain it like I did because I explained it much clearer.

[00:20:04] But if what they're saying is truly what's going on, he's forked his own thing off there. It's an isolated walled off instance. Cool. They talked about stealing stuff. I don't even know what that means. But the point is they said it's an isolated off the side something. Okay. That's in concert with what I said. He just wants that shibarium type thing. It's a isolated ecosystem. You could do everything inside of it. You don't need to do this over here. Everything's all okay. Do you buy into that?

[00:20:34] Are you sold by that? Does that make you convinced or you're one of those where you want to see the end game for this thing with the pre-sale money? I can't tell you. That's why I say I can't tell you which way to go. I can only tell you what I recommend, which is nothing. Do nothing. Just sit. Wait. That's assuming mind you that you claim and that you bought from exchanges and you sat on it did nothing.

[00:20:55] If you were constantly interacting with the site, the BDAC scan dashboard, there's nothing I can do because I have no idea what he's doing with that stuff. I never paid attention to it because I knew it was fake. It's all bullshit. So all you need to understand, all you need to understand. When Jeremy keeps throwing the fucking word database like a derogatory term, every blockchain is a database. Ignore him when he says that. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

[00:21:23] What he's trying to say is that it's an isolated instance of the ledger on the BDAC scan side. That is all. It's an isolated instance. It has its own transactions. It's branched. The transactions are branched. There's one chain ID underneath it. The transactions are branched. They do not agree. They simply do not. You can consider they claim that is the attacker.

[00:21:49] Is not the attacker because that was the original one because Jeremy and Nick by their own on audio admission. We're telling you to go to our BDAG scan dot com at a point. So no, there's was the original. That was the original. These guys are the ones who branched off. People were talking to core market cap about a civil attack. I did an episode about civil attacks. Go ahead and check that out.

[00:22:16] But it's not a civil attack by core definition. All that really happened here. Dag tech. I gave screenshots about what that text say. Dag tech is basically saying I built this. I built that. I am not holding a stance about which is authoritative. It was a civil attack. You're accusing Dowie of doing it, of being complicit in it. No, that's not what it is. What it is, is that the community side asked to branch off and do their own thing. That's what happened.

[00:22:45] He did his thing and just locked it the hell down after firing people. That's what happened. There is no attack. So stop listening to these dumb nuts. There was no attack because you're accusing Dowie of being complicit in something of committing a crime. That's essentially what you're doing. When you say the word attack, there was no attack. You asked to go on your own. That's fine. That's why I said you should have called it something the fuck else instead of calling it block tag.

[00:23:10] The fact that you're trying to call it BlockDAG is because one or two or many of you are trying to claim ownership of what's going on. That's why you keep using the word canonical. You're trying to declare that you are the authoritative source. You cannot be because you're not the origin of the source because the block height tells the story. We know the exact block where they remained in sync and the exact block they deviated at the block. They deviated. That's when you're starting to go off rogue.

[00:23:39] Why do I know that? Because any transactions that took place aren't reflected on yours. That means yours is the rogue one. Dude. Once again, listener, you don't need to trust me. You can verify yourself. Connect to each one. Look at your balance. Wallet balance, not state balance. Wallet balance on each one. If they don't match, you're going to see probably the community is way lower. Why? Because they don't have those transactions.

[00:24:09] How? Because they don't reflect anything after the branch off. What does that mean? A, they're two ledgers like Leicester has been saying to be the truth for a long time now. Two, theirs is not going to acknowledge any of those additional transactions because they just chose not to. They could. They're choosing not to. This is what, that's how that works. They're choosing not to acknowledge transactions after that branch. That's the definition of the branch. Fine.

[00:24:38] If you support that because you're so pissed that kid doesn't do it and accept you're starting over from scratch over there to hopefully hit you in Nirvana land with two people who on their audio record don't have the money to sustain this shit. That's what you got. Or you go on this other side with a guy who does nothing but marketing bullshit marketing with some lofty promises that may or may not turn into something, but he's got money bankroll allegedly to get the exchanges to do what he wants.

[00:25:07] That's you're choosing between two liars. That's all this is. That's all it is. That's all it is. But stop fucking calling it a database when all blockchains are databases. Your attempt at a derogatory term makes you look like a child. He made a decision on what he wants to do and he's holding to it. He is holding his conviction of what he thinks it needs to do. Whether he's doing something appropriate or not, it's not the problem here.

[00:25:34] The problem here is that you two are misrepresenting what's really going on. He has a vision. You don't agree with it now because you stopped getting paid. Just like Liza, just like Marius Bach. Turner gets fired for the same reason because he's trying to do something. It's not in concert with his vision yet. You two stayed behind after you saw Turner get fired for the exact same shit that you guys are now dealing with.

[00:26:03] You stayed behind. Why? Because you're dumb asses. That's why. So. Listeners, please. Don't listen to AI. Stop. Stop following AI. Stop trusting AI. It's common sense. You can see it for yourself. Just follow your common sense. Use your brain on this. It's easy. I have never told you which side to choose. I actually look at it as an opportunity.

[00:26:31] I gave the example of Ethereum and Ethereum classic. It's to me, it's the same kind of concept. In some cases, both still continue and do their own thing. We can't have the same chain ID. That's got to be resolved. Something's got to give. Who's it going to be? I don't have that answer for you. All I can say is with crypto money, money walks and talks and one side's got it. And allegedly the other side don't take that what you will. So. So.